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Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63179] Fri, 01 May 2009 09:06 Go to next message
lukebrenner is currently offline lukebrenner  Romania
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Hi,

I was thinking of testing a dedicated server (first time). Not commercial, just a test, just to see how I could do it.

1. I have downloaded and burned a CentOS 5.2 DVD.

2. I took one of my laptops, created a partition of 20 GB and booted from the DVD.

3. Installed CentOS on that partition with just "Desktop-Gnome" as a selected option. (no server, no virtualization, etc ...)

4. Updated the OS with the Software Updater and rebooted, now it's CentOS 5.3 (Final)

5. Then followed the instructions on lxlabs.com website, and from the terminal app, ran LxAdmin installation ($ wget ... and then $ sh ...). It installed LOTS of stuff.

6. rebooted and successfully logged in to LxAdmin.

7. Switched apache to lighty and bind to djdbns and bogofilter to spamassassin.

Everything ok, except the fact that lighty still displays as stopped (red) and when accessing http://ip in a browser window, it doesn't work.

So far it's fun.

Any considerations ?

I think I will build at server and set it up at home with a fiberoptic connection.

Thanks.
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63180 is a reply to message #63179] Fri, 01 May 2009 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lxbhargava is currently offline lxbhargava  
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You have to add at least one domain and lighty should work.


On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 01:06:05PM -0000, Luc wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was thinking of testing a dedicated server (first time). Not commercial, just a test, just to see how I could do it.
>
> 1. I have downloaded and burned a CentOS 5.2 DVD.
>
> 2. I took one of my laptops, created a partition of 20 GB and booted from the DVD.
>
> 3. Installed CentOS on that partition with just "Desktop-Gnome" as a selected option. (no server, no virtualization, etc ...)




Thanks and Regards

S Bhargava
Lxlabs Support
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63195 is a reply to message #63179] Fri, 01 May 2009 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
arthurthornton is currently offline arthurthornton  United States
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Firstly, it is not a good idea to host a server from home. Especially since most ISPs have a policy against it and they charge large fees for violations of the policy.

Yes, you should add a domain (for example, just add something like testing.com) and then you should be able to access lighty. You can either access by the IP or add testing.com to the end of your 127.0.0.1 localhost line. If that doesn't work, then you need to find out why lighty isn't working.


Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63229 is a reply to message #63179] Sat, 02 May 2009 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ales is currently offline Ales  Slovenia
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Quote:
Firstly, it is not a good idea to host a server from home. Especially since most ISPs have a policy against it and they charge large fees for violations of the policy.


Probably depends on the country, not a single ISP here does this...

We have an optic fiber connection at the office and I also have it at home, no restrictions at all. Multiple IP's available, 1 Gbit max speed, if one is willing to spend 1000 EUR per month. 10Mbit up/down is just 14 EUR per month. Way better than modems in old days... Very Happy

None the less, even if your ISP allows it, I would recommend against hosting at home for various other reasons (single point of failure, etc.). It's more than adequate for testing purposes and backup, though.
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63347 is a reply to message #63229] Mon, 04 May 2009 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lukebrenner is currently offline lukebrenner  Romania
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Thanks guys.

Maybe building a server and colocate it in a server farm would be better ...

Ales, where are you from ?

Thanks.
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63348 is a reply to message #63179] Mon, 04 May 2009 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ales is currently offline Ales  Slovenia
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I'm from Slovenia... From Ljubljana. The colocation prices and the quality of the services have become that much better here in the past few years that we are slowly consolidating our servers from USA and Germany to two local data centers. Renting dedicated servers has been fine for us, but local colo gives you that extra flexibility... It pays off in the long run.

You are from Germany? There should be plenty of options for you to choose from...

Have you evaluated ProxMox? LxLabs products have their advantages but customer support and the way the development is run still has me worried.

[Updated on: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:54]

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Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63354 is a reply to message #63348] Mon, 04 May 2009 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lukebrenner is currently offline lukebrenner  Romania
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Hi Ales, thanks for your reply.
I'm actually from Romania, have lived in Germany for some time (even though I am kinda more Canadian - from the time spent there p.o.v than German + Romanian ..lol ).

These services are not that expensive here either ... but I still worry about the sensitive data accessibility by the employees here so that's why I have decided to get this VPS in Holland.

And yes, I was "kinda" half-joking about setting up a webserver @ home even though I am quite flirting with the idea. I am not a multimillion dollar company who will lose 1 million $ for every hour of website downtime. I will soon launch a website that - I hope - will bring lot of traffic and am really worried about this VPS I have right now, the memory and reliability. I just found out that in my city (Cluj-Napoca) there's a company offering fiberoptics connection for 39 euro / month, which is NOT BAD at all. I could buy a UPS and briefly ... be a starter Smile and build ther server the way I want and put lots of memory on it ... eh ...

Anyways .. I am going to stay with these Dutch people until after I launch my website and depending on the results, I'll see where I'll head with it.

Proxmox is super from what I see.

From the CP hosting point of view, I have to agree that this LXadmin is simpler and more user friendly that CPanel (I am not that techie but didn't like CPanel at all) but don't know how much powerful it is compared to CPanel. I also found another one, it's called Inteworx, that seems very nice and user friendly. Again, I don't know how good it is.
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63358 is a reply to message #63354] Mon, 04 May 2009 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lxbhargava is currently offline lxbhargava  
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Hello,

Try Lxadmin. I am sure you will not think of other software.


On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:55:01PM -0000, Luc wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ales, thanks for your reply.
> I'm actually from Romania, have lived in Germany for some time (even though I am kinda more Canadian - from the time spent there p.o.v than German + Romanian ..lol ).
>
> These services are not that expensive here either ... but I still worry about the sensitive data accessibility by the employees here so that's why I have decided to get this VPS in Holland.
>
> And yes, I was "kinda" half-joking about setting up a webserver @ home even though I am quite flirting with the idea. I am not a multimillion dollar company who will lose 1 million $ for every hour of website downtime. I will soon launch a website that - I hope - will bring lot of traffic and am really worried about this VPS I have right now, the memory and reliability. I just found out that in my city (Cluj-Napoca) there's a company offering fiberoptics connection for 39 euro / month, which is NOT BAD at all. I could buy a UPS and briefly ... be a starter :) and build ther server the way I want and put lots of memory on it ... eh ...
>
> Anyways .. I am going to stay with these Dutch people until after I launch my website and depending on the results, I'll see where I'll head with it.
>
> Proxmox is super from what I see.
>
> >From the CP hosting point of view, I have to agree that this LXadmin is simpler and more user friendly that CPanel (I am not that techie but didn't like CPanel at all) but don't know how much powerful it is compared to CPanel. I also found another one, it's called Inteworx, that seems very nice and user friendly. Again, I don't know how good it is.
>




Thanks and Regards

S Bhargava
Lxlabs Support
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63359 is a reply to message #63358] Mon, 04 May 2009 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lukebrenner is currently offline lukebrenner  Romania
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Don't worry ... I am not trying it, I have been USING it for 8 months now. It's ok, but I am not that impressed.
In my VPS case, clamav is eating a HUGE amount of memory and I don't know why.
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63363 is a reply to message #63359] Mon, 04 May 2009 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
arthurthornton is currently offline arthurthornton  United States
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Clamav always uses a large amount of memory. It is a fundamental bug with clamav. But clamav is the industry leader for linux email AV. Plus, it is free. Those are the reasons LxLabs chose clamav.

Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63364 is a reply to message #63359] Mon, 04 May 2009 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lxbhargava is currently offline lxbhargava  
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Hello,

Ohh sorry, What are thing that you does not like of lxadmin.

That might be problem with clamav. Can you show some stat of memory
utilization of clamav at bare metal server and VPS.


On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:03:26PM -0000, Luc wrote:
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>
> Don't worry ... I am not trying it, I have been USING it for 8 months now. It's ok, but I am not that impressed.
> In my VPS case, clamav is eating a HUGE amount of memory and I don't know why.
>




Thanks and Regards

S Bhargava
Lxlabs Support
Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63365 is a reply to message #63364] Mon, 04 May 2009 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lukebrenner is currently offline lukebrenner  Romania
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I suggest we don't start that here.
There's a whole thread for this in the "technical" section :

http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&th=6113&star t=0&

The thing is, after I have installed LxAdmin on my laptop on the CentOS 5.2 build, clamav was eating up not more than 70 Mb ... on my VPS it is eating anywhere between 120 and 160 Mb all the time.

Arthur, I am not sure, but Kaspersky for Linux isn't it free ? Correct me if I'm wrong please ...

[Updated on: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:26]

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Re: Assumptions to instal LxAdmin on a dedicated server ... [message #63368 is a reply to message #63365] Mon, 04 May 2009 12:11 Go to previous message
arthurthornton is currently offline arthurthornton  United States
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I am not sure if Kaspersky is free for Linux, but I know that clamav comes through CentOS's repo and it is free. It is also GPL and it is what is used for most of Linux mail servers' AV needs.

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