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icon4.gif  Opensource Release date [message #71606] Fri, 30 October 2009 16:13 Go to next message
NetTuningGroup  is currently offline NetTuningGroup  Netherlands
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Hi,

The OpenSource release date is planned this weekend for ALL sources.

My first plan was to do the opensource release as HyperVM 2.1.0 as a new version update. But i think everyone will with me if i say its better to open de SVN repo with an anonymous checkout to get the code(s) (in this situation).
The plan was also to move the source from the private SVN to for example sourceforge or googlecode etc etc..
But that can happen in the future also.

Just realy one note: DONT USE THE SVN SOURCE ON PRODUCTION SERVERS! DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!

If you want to develop, you can ask me an SVN account.
The SVN account is also rognized by the project website so if you have a project website account, do the same name for SVN.

(Also this weekend i have to find out how i add anonymous to the svn server.. so quick tips are welcome Razz )

Status:
HyperVM -> SVN version IS running (tested) (AGPL3 ready)
Kloxo -> SVN version is NOT running (AGPL3 to be implemented this weekend)

Archives: (AGPL3 not needed i think, obsolete code)
LxAdmin -> Unknown status (not needed i think)
Client -> The client.lxlabs.com website code (not realy needed)

So you can get all 4 above codes if you want.

Its a sad situation, but hey, i do give still my 110% Smile
I do hope serious ppl will join now to fix the read.

Have a nice weekend and watch this thread!

Regards,
Danny.

[Updated on: Mon, 17 May 2010 08:42]


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Re: Opensource Release date [message #71621 is a reply to message #71606] Sat, 31 October 2009 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cyberneticos  is currently offline cyberneticos  Spain
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Despite our differences, I'd like to thank you for making this happen.

Thanks Cool

[Updated on: Sat, 31 October 2009 13:26]



Re: Opensource Release date [message #71638 is a reply to message #71606] Sun, 01 November 2009 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NetTuningGroup  is currently offline NetTuningGroup  Netherlands
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Hi,

Ok taked a while, but with help from google i created anonymous access (read only) for checkout the SVN.
Some more things needed on that part but it is working.
I can still with my account commit changes so thats also good Smile


Now some information:

Mailinglists
The mailinglists used for commits to the SVN. It gives some visual things whats changed to the code if someone is changing things.

Subscribe
hypervm-svn-subscribe@lists.lxcenter.org
kloxo-svn-subscribe@lists.lxcenter.org
lxadmin-svn-subscribe@lists.lxcenter.org
client-svn-subscribe@lists.lxcenter.org

Just send a blank email message to subscribe.

Unsubscribe
hypervm-svn-unsubscribe@lists.lxcenter.org
kloxo-svn-unsubscribe@lists.lxcenter.org
lxadmin-svn-unsubscribe@lists.lxcenter.org
client-svn-unsubscribe@lists.lxcenter.org

Just send a blank email message to unsubscribe.

Send emails to list
hypervm-svn@lists.lxcenter.org
kloxo-svn@lists.lxcenter.org
lxadmin-svn@lists.lxcenter.org
client-svn@lists.lxcenter.org


SVN access to get the code
svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/hypervm
svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/kloxo
svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/lxadmin
svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/client

HyperVM and Kloxo repo's are linked to Project website (http://project.lxcenter.org/)

Again, don't run it on production servers, use it at your own risk!

Remember also, all 4 repo's are under AGPL3.0 License! respect that and follow the rules.

Give me a week to arrange some things. Then Developers that want a SVN account to check in new code, can ask an account by a webform. I dont expect any changes in a week. Just look at the code, and learn it a bit. Think about fixing bugs and security things.


Also, we need 1 or 2 dedicated systems to use them as test servers for all developers. (A HyperVM and a Kloxo).

Also, not every file is headered with the AGPL header info. i did it with HyperVM code but that screwed up the working, so i reverted that back.
When you as developer editing a file, add the licence header. Why it screwed up? You will notice that all the code dont have CLOSE tags. Maybe thats why.

Also, HyperVM Part, this one has one missing c source. Maybe i did not found it yet or it is realy missing.
I created some build scripts. So you can compile them aswell if needed.

Kloxo is almost untouched. So you get a lot duplicates that i already did removed from the HyperVM repo.


Good luck!

Any questions? ask!

Regards, Danny

[update: changed mailinglists info i forgot lists. in domain name]

[Updated on: Sun, 01 November 2009 17:12]


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icon14.gif  Re: Opensource Release date [message #71650 is a reply to message #71606] Mon, 02 November 2009 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
eduardosilva  Mozambique
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Great news, Very Happy
thanks for all the effort Danny!

[Updated on: Mon, 02 November 2009 07:58]


Eduardo Silva
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Re: Opensource Release date [message #71662 is a reply to message #71606] Mon, 02 November 2009 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Luke  is currently offline Luke
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I can donate one of my server for testing. Please email me what requirements do you need. My email is ajuluke[at]gmail[dot]com

Re: Opensource Release date [message #71726 is a reply to message #71606] Wed, 11 November 2009 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pug123  is currently offline pug123
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Hello Guys,

Thank you for good news. Is it any further?
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71738 is a reply to message #71606] Thu, 12 November 2009 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Speedy059  is currently offline Speedy059  United States
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I have a feeling that everyone was just gripping about wanting it to be open source. But I don't think anyone wants to contribute now that it's open....
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71739 is a reply to message #71738] Thu, 12 November 2009 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
eduardosilva  Mozambique
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Speedy059 wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 01:02
I have a feeling that everyone was just gripping about wanting it to be open source. But I don't think anyone wants to contribute now that it's open....


Actually i think that maybe the code went open source too late. Most of the people who where using HyperVM migrated to other solutions, and I don't really think that those will come back soon.

So HyperVM would need to take a very long walk now. At first moment, I think that someone will need to handle with the current issues, relasing new patches, then we will see a community rising and after this there will be people willing to participate in the source code and improving the code.

It's not just "open the source and wait for new programmers to come". It will require work and sacrifice at the beginning. If not, it's not going anywhere.

Unfortunately I'm not a programmer so I can't develop anything but i can help with other things. I already contacted Danny but i still need time to write a new proper email for him.

I really hope that HyperVM come back to market again, it's a very good and mature solution, of course that it have some problems but we can work on those.


Eduardo Silva
linux.eduardosilva.eti.br
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71741 is a reply to message #71739] Thu, 12 November 2009 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NetTuningGroup  is currently offline NetTuningGroup  Netherlands
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Here you can apply for an SVN Developers account.

http://svn.lxcenter.org/

Just a quick simple layout.


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Re: Opensource Release date [message #71747 is a reply to message #71741] Thu, 12 November 2009 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
outservers  is currently offline outservers  Argentina
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Here we can offer a dedicated server (in Argentina) if you want for test and dev.
Example IP, pingeable: 200.85.152.1
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71756 is a reply to message #71738] Fri, 13 November 2009 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dbmv  is currently offline dbmv  Canada
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Speedy059 wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 01:02
I have a feeling that everyone was just gripping about wanting it to be open source. But I don't think anyone wants to contribute now that it's open....



The main issue is that most people, including myself, finally moved away. Open sourcing it when HyperVM was still "hot" would have been the smartest thing to do. Now it is just dead weight
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71760 is a reply to message #71756] Fri, 13 November 2009 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NetTuningGroup  is currently offline NetTuningGroup  Netherlands
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Nope it was not smart. At that time.

And no, its not dead, and dont going to die.

A lot ppl that moved away, where just impatience ppl that did not wanted to wait what was going to happen.

Just dont be negative.

Development is open. (http://svn.lxcenter.org (see the website))

Design etc will be arranged proper next months for all websites. Ppl that said, i wanna do it, never answered back anymore. A partner of my company is going to do the design stuff now.
His tasks for the moment: Create a house style on all websites we have.(main website, svn, project, forum etc)
Also he is going to create new small HyperVM/Kloxo logo's that fits in Lxcenter Colors etc.
Also he try's to update the forum software if he have time for it.


My feeling, a lot ppl intrested in a lot things, offered a lot helping hands. We (I) took some of them. Nothing happened afterwards.....

I am building it up from ground zero. That takes time. Source is public as many wanted. I am still busy with LxCenter.

Just wait and see, if i have found intrested ppl that makes free time now and then to do things, then you all lot changes.
Just remember, i have 2 jobs, family, kids, hobby's etc i cant do magic things Smile

I have now also a second person that going to be general system operator of all Lxcenter Servers. This weekend he gets all login info etc.

Also, we have 2 persons that wants to donate a test server for development tests (running versions).


I realy wonder what ppl do with the sources now. Its downloaded a lot. And not a single message to find anywhere what ppl thinks about the code. I do see over all over the net that the source is released.

Anyway, still a lot to do.. see ya in a next post Razz

[Updated on: Fri, 13 November 2009 20:40]


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Re: Opensource Release date [message #71763 is a reply to message #71606] Sat, 14 November 2009 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mustardman29  is currently offline mustardman29  Canada
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Well I had a look at alternatives including commercial stuff and HyperVM is still the best all around.

It is in need of some TLC though so hopefully now that you have the developer site set up there will be some activity.

There are really only 2 serious alternatives as I see it. Pay top dollar for a Parallels solution or free opensource HyperVM.

[Updated on: Sat, 14 November 2009 00:40]

Re: Opensource Release date [message #71772 is a reply to message #71606] Sat, 14 November 2009 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cyberneticos  is currently offline cyberneticos  Spain
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I had tried just about all alternatives to hypervm, and we decided to START using hypervm right after Ligesh passed away.

We are still using it today. I think a lot of people are downloading the code to finally be able to make their own skin and/or for curiosity. I guess some will try to start thier own software, some are the competence, etc.

I have been looking at a few files, and I am sorry to say that the programming is really sloppy. Didn't seem like an organized programmer. Maybe he didn't have the time, maybe he only focuses on other things, maybe it's just coincidence that the files I looked at were the sloppy ones.

I think hyperVM is a great project and I think that this is just the beggining of whats to come. If I ever have time to help out I will, since I am an intermediate php programmer. I also have a friend who is really good at programming and linux, and has helped me put hyperVM together at our company.

So you can count on us sooner or later.

HyperVM is very far away from being dead. I think completely the opposite. Now HyperVM will finally have a chance to shine and stomp the competition.

So again, I'd laike to thank NetTuningGroup for making this happen. Thanks to you, my company is offering a good virtualization solution.

Cheers!

Anthony



Re: Opensource Release date [message #71776 is a reply to message #71772] Sat, 14 November 2009 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HyperVM has still been working for us. We considering moving to a different solution several times, but decided to wait and see what happened. We haven't had any problems with it during that time, clients have been happy, and no new security issues have been released as far as I know (other than the one that the consortium patched a couple months ago), so it looks like we made a good decision to stick with it and I am happy to see that it finally is released as open source so that things can finally move forward.

I would love to help contribute to the project, but I doubt I will be able to make any time for it, so can't promise anything at this point. But wanted to give my input on the situation and let people know that there are still some of us that are actively using it and we will greatly appreciate any effort that people put into making it an even better product than it already is!

Good luck everyone, looking forward to seeing where this goes next Smile
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71778 is a reply to message #71606] Sun, 15 November 2009 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

Messages between an hour ago and last sunday are lost.

There was a mixture between 2 dirs in the configfile of the forum. Those paths are not configurable by the admin GUI.

I deleted the old foprum.lxlabs.com but was not aware that the new and old dir was mixed with data.

Some messages are blank now. Excuses for that.
I used a backup to restore the data to the correct dirs.
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71779 is a reply to message #71778] Sun, 15 November 2009 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mustardman29  is currently offline mustardman29  Canada
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Also i added the svn project at the project website.

if you are translator and want to send in translation files, go to http://svn.lxcenter.org/ to get an SVN account.
Also write in the apply that youre a translator and the language you are manage.

Regards,
Danny.




Because this message content was lost i write again:

Language i8nl repository is created.


Emaillist:

subscribe: i8nl-svn-subscribe@lists.lxcenter.org

SVN:

svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/i8nl/

[Updated on: Sun, 15 November 2009 12:51]

Re: Opensource Release date [message #71787 is a reply to message #71779] Mon, 16 November 2009 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also i added the svn project at the project website.

if you are translator and want to send in translation files, go to http://svn.lxcenter.org/ to get an SVN account.
Also write in the apply that youre a translator and the language you are manage.

Regards,
Danny.




Hi,

I updated the forum to version FUDforum 3.0.0

Regards,
Danny.Maybe this whole thread (at least) should be
Re: Opensource Release date [message #71836 is a reply to message #71606] Wed, 18 November 2009 18:53 Go to previous message
ferd  is currently offline ferd  United States
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Maybe this whole thread (at least) should be deleted. It's a mess now.
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