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WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #71768] Sat, 14 November 2009 05:35 Go to next message
Enzyme is currently offline Enzyme  Netherlands
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To make HyperVM and Kloxo even better and more powerful then it already is, LX needs more people to support the project. We got the following applications open:

- PHP coders w/ MySQL & Ajax knowledge.
- C and C++ coders, since there are a few C sources to work on.
- Redhat/CentOS packaging, to create RPM's and add them to the repository.
- Windows Port, they already started developing the windows version wanna help?
- Bug trackers, people who like to help us track and trace bugs and help to fix and resolve any.
- Web designers, we would like to have all lx-related sites in 1 style.
- HyperVM/Kloxo Logo, people who would like to create those logo's. We might even launch a logo contest soon.

The following applications where already filled:

- 2 people sponsoring dedicated servers, to have a neat test environment.
- 2 System Operators, to maintain lx serverpark.


Thanks to the community for supporting this project! Special thanks to the people who already sponsored LX!

You can sign up to join us by clicking this link


If you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs

[Updated on: Mon, 17 May 2010 08:44] by Moderator

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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72915 is a reply to message #71768] Fri, 12 February 2010 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ceesco53 is currently offline ceesco53  United States
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I am interested in hosting the websites and svn access for this project. Also, I can provide a better looking design for the website, and for the forums. There are so many open source solutions (Joomla, Drupal, etc...) there is no excuse for a poorly designed site. It is my intention to collaborate with others to help move this into a more professional, and more organized effort.

I have recently begun using this on one of our internal servers, and it does work, after minor tweaks. It is my enthusiasm for kloxos to become more mainstream, and accepted by larger hosting companies as a viable, opensource business alternative to cpanel and plesk.

The truth hurts, but this forum needs something better than fudforum. I believe most people are comfortable with PHPBB. I SHOULD be able to port all data into that, but it may take a while. It may be better to completely FORK this into a new project and remove all ties to the drama and politics that caused the tragedies throughout the life of kloxos.

I am anxiously awaiting any opinions, fork or not to fork?

My thoughts,

John

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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72917 is a reply to message #72915] Sat, 13 February 2010 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LxCenter_Danny is currently offline LxCenter_Danny  Netherlands
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Everything is already hosted and running fine. No need to move to somewhere else.
At some time the SVN shall be moved to sourceforge as planned from the beginning.

The main website in not that important yet. It works and it shows some data. There going to be a few ppl assigned to be content maintainers of the website. Main prio is programming.

Concerned forum, we still need all the messages as there are a lot undocumented sollutions posted.
A new forum software is fine, but everything must be present as it is now. All messages, all accounts and structures.

A lot hammers on phpBB. Give me realy good lines why phpBB is that good because in the past it has always a lot security flaws and holes. A quick search on FUD issues gives me none.
The con of FUD is a bad usermanager. The rest is working fine.

First we need a start of developing (active talking is started thats good).
We have 1 apply for a Development manager, on hold to see if more apllies.

When that part is started i can go to the background on developing part and focus on other delegations. At the end a lot ppl doing someting.

So yes maybe it gonna be a new forum tho.. but I and many others want a secure forum. Not too much, not too less.

In a week i go handle a new batch of applies. Developers, translators, others etc.





Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72919 is a reply to message #72917] Sat, 13 February 2010 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diego is currently offline Diego  Colombia
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> The main website in not that important yet. It works and it shows some data. There going to be a few ppl assigned to be content maintainers of the website. Main prio is programming.

Yea, but some people, like me, at least could make it look it nice?

>A lot hammers on phpBB. Give me realy good lines why phpBB is that good because in the past it has always a lot security flaws and holes. A quick search on FUD issues gives me none.
The con of FUD is a bad usermanager. The rest is working fine.

Then can you at least get a new theme? Get someone to do it?
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Also, a blog would be nice, where we all get to post important stuff.


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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72933 is a reply to message #72919] Mon, 15 February 2010 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ceesco53 is currently offline ceesco53  United States
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Something else is of great concern to me. This has to do with the grammatical errors I find in the posts from certain members of those responsible for PR (Public Relations) on this project. Many people, such as myself, know the importance of well written, and well thought out responses.

I agree with Diego. A well written blog using SEO tools to help increase PR (Page Rank) will also help improve response and contributions back to this project. I always tell our website clients the importance of fresh, relevant content.

What I may have incorrectly stated is we are SELLING this open source project not for a price, but for continued support from volunteers. The forum needs a well thought out and easy user interface that is visually pleasing. The Frontend (website) needs to match this theme for consistency, and for brand recognition. It does not need to be forked, it just needs a lot of work.

I'd like to help. I've worn many different hats for many years. I understand PR (Page Rank) and PR (Public Relations). I can code. I work in a small business so understand and am capable of changing hats quickly.

Your right, there is no need to move this site anywhere else, and I may have sounded a bit harsh in my original post.

I'd like to see this:

- Public Relations Team (Responsible for website content, grammar checking, translations, following up on business related emails, etc.)
- Development team - GUI (Responsible for Templating all areas of the website)
- Development team - GUI - Kloxos (Responsible for GUI within Kloxos, templating kloxos control panel, etc..)
- Development team - Core - Kloxos - Linux(I think this is obvious)
- Development team - Core - Kloxos - Windows(I think this is obvious)
- Management team - development - Responsible for updating trouble tickets from users, contacting devs for status updates, svn access, commit issues, etc...
- Management team - vision - Where do we go from here, mission statement

ALL of these are important. Comments on the frontend such as "It works and it shows some data" are myopic at best. We need to organize, we need to code, and we need to get started. I'm still for relabling/renaming everything and developing an entirely new look. A lot of content needs to be corrected, and removed. The site is very difficult to navigate around.

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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72934 is a reply to message #72933] Mon, 15 February 2010 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Enzyme is currently offline Enzyme  Netherlands
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I agree the site is not easy to nagivate, also phpBB is not an option. In the future we could get a Invision License, this will cover all the problems with user management. But all this is not so important now.

The most important is to have all logo's from Kloxo, HyperVM and LxCenter in the same style, along with the website style. And ofcourse to take the development into a next level. As for as i can see not much is happening now. Maybe the whole current team should meet with eachother first on IRC, cause we call ourself a ''team'' but i only know Danny really good Smile

So maybe we should fix a LX-Team Meeting ASAP!


If you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs

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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72935 is a reply to message #72934] Mon, 15 February 2010 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LxCenter_Danny is currently offline LxCenter_Danny  Netherlands
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Logo/banner pack is posted a while ago. (on this forum).
I send you a email link. Subscribe and you will see activity.
Main website, look at staff page, next batch prossessing is next week.
And a Development manager is also almost present.

IRC is not working. Everyone knows " email ".

See ya on the list Razz
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #72936 is a reply to message #71768] Mon, 15 February 2010 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Enzyme is currently offline Enzyme  Netherlands
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Still i think a meeting is good idea Smile

Cya on the list Wink


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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73440 is a reply to message #71768] Tue, 23 March 2010 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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I was requested account o SVN. I'm skilled developer< and I have my own hosting group. When I will see my account an will use it?
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73442 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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I need it for fixing many bugs, Also security bugs...
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73453 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 04:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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Omg... 1 day after my request. 5 hours after my question on forum... From lxcenter consortium, anybody, where are you?

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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73460 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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Hey, guys!!! I'm sorry, but I can really help with developing!!! Where are you all? I do not like the fork for fixing bugs only!
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73471 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Walter  Brazil
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You don't need a SVN account to start working.

Just

svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/hypervm

or/and

svn checkout http://svn.lxcenter.org/svn/kloxo


And use the bugtracker (http://project.lxcenter.org) to submit fixes.

Contact the project manager (coolraul in the forum or aallen[at]lxcenter.org), introduce yourself and let him know about your skills.

Then you will get a better sense on who is working on what and avoid duplicate work.

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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73474 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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Just Add files? )). I think, I must receve email with instructions, Isn't it? Why I do not receive reply? Just some security fixes... )). Ok, will be in project. Lxcenter.org. )))
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73481 is a reply to message #73474] Wed, 24 March 2010 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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And... How I can contact with coratul?
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73482 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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read my last post here
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73483 is a reply to message #71768] Wed, 24 March 2010 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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Oh, sorry. It's my mistake, thanks.
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73505 is a reply to message #71768] Thu, 25 March 2010 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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3 days and no answer. No emails, no forum answers... Ok, I hope, that it is only temporary. We are developing our own control panel. Sorry for my impression.
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73507 is a reply to message #71768] Thu, 25 March 2010 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
coolraul is currently offline coolraul  Canada
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Yes I have not responded to you.

I received your email at 22:30 last night my time. So as of right now it hasn't been 24 hours. If you can't wait 24 hours for me to respond to your email about joining our development team, frankly I have no interest in you joining.

Good luck with your panel.
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73508 is a reply to message #71768] Thu, 25 March 2010 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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Ok. Who receives emails from svn.lxcenter.org? Smile. Why it's not you? )))
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73510 is a reply to message #71768] Thu, 25 March 2010 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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some somply bugs on 64-bit version: /etc/suphp.conf, installed by kloxo. It's have some typos. /var/qmail/supervise/*/run - have some typos.

Development version Have many bugs, but we are fixed those bugs in our SVN repo. Also, we are killed licence checks, fixed sshterm, updated and moved PHPMyAdmin into other location (it must be more simple updating), partially translated kloxo. 1 month, 2 developers... We are removed lxzend, fixed some typos in the kloxo code. Why we are need waiting your developers team? Very Happy. since 2009... My first request in January 2010. No responce. My second request - free VDS under xen hyperVM for Developing kloxo, or some other resources. No, you like to test kloxo only on dedicated... ). May be it's because we are hosters, and not developers? =) What is mind? Our server was gouing down, because by default kloxo has no any dos-deflate functions. By default it's not install iptables!!! Wow... I can continue? Or I must gzip code and send to you by email? Backup issues... Backups MUST BE reorganized, because on SATA hard drives in SOFT-RAID and userdata about 80-100 Gbytes, this have memory issues, some problems with stability, server is slowing down... High memory usage for apache - many unized modules. Do not correct setup in conf.d (PHP)... Watchdog must be totally rewriten, skin bugs. I've fixed dome of them... But I do not see any developers, and I see development leader.

Work MUST be more efficient, more user-friendly, more simple, more detailed. Why!? Why? Why I must have four accounts on lxcenter? (client.lxcenter for licenses, forum.lxcenter, project.lxcenter, svn.lxcenter)??? Omg, why you do not use ONE (!) CMS? Yes, you are created new site. Yes, project site. Yes, I'm agree that the SVN - must be another account. But... bugtracker, discussions, announcemets, wiki and other must be more simple, more adequate, more friendly. Why I need check links on your site? It's hard to navigate.


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Developers (SVN name) (date added) (date left) [comments]
Mohammed Naser (mnaser) (nov-15-2009)
Sergey Ami (ser) (nov-15-2009)
Peter Jones (pj1s) (nov-16-2009) [Maybe doing skins/themes]
Reid Forrest (reidfo) (nov-16-2009) [Kloxo]
Joko Frank Octo (JFOC) (nov-17-2009) [PHP, Security]
Deen Yusoff (DeenY) (nov-18-2009) [HyperVM & Kloxo]
Andres Moya (andres) (nov-21-2009) [Kloxo, wants to implement nginx webserver]
Martin Sefcik (martin.sefcik) (feb-07-2010) [Kloxo]
Edy Lam (edylam) (feb-07-2010)
Paulo Abreu (pama) (feb-07-2010)
Sumit Tiwari (sumittiwari) (feb-07-2010)
Andy Jones (andyjay30) (feb-07-2010)
Robert Zerer (robert.z) (feb-07-2010)
Rajesh K R (rajesh_kr79) (feb-07-2010) [RPM packager]
Levis Bakalinsky (lbakalinsky) (feb-07-2010)
Azhari Ahmad (Azhari) (feb-07-2010)
Keiran Smith (keiran) (feb-07-2010)
Emre Yazici (senator) (feb-07-2010)
Gerrie Mansur (Gmansur) (feb-07-2010)
Michele ?? (artemedia) (feb-07-2010)
Bilal ?? (c0der) (feb-07-2010)
Behzad ?? (behzadfu) (feb-07-2010)
Dariusz Rusiecki (dariuszr) (feb-07-2010) [RPM packager, security and more]

Is there fixed any bug? Is there implemented new feature? Is something done? No! I was saw only Danny, and only cleanups. Oh, yes. some modifications for non-critical libraries.

No. I do not interested to work with people, who do not work. I don't interested to work in dead project! I don't interested to joining to community, where TEAM LEADER do not reading the posts on forum. Support and developers forum. 1 year your communin has no SIMPLE fix for mail on 64 bits system. Just config editing!!! An so? Are you interested in developing kloxo hosting panel? Or you can do only new logos? Haha. I'm sorry, but... Are you shure, that your are have no interests? Yeah. It's only kloxo... HyperVM have some troubles too! What it's mean? please, be patient.

Good luck!
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73511 is a reply to message #71768] Thu, 25 March 2010 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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And... Yes. I'm crazy Russian Very Happy. Sorry for expression and for my bad English.
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73512 is a reply to message #71768] Fri, 26 March 2010 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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Quote:
1 for Kloxo dedicated. (1 IP)
Not VPS. Why?
Quote:
Quote:
1 for HyperVM + OpenVZ. (2 IP's, 1 for node one for VM testing)
OpenVZ you can run under xen. Why not? Yues, some issues on live dedicated server, but... Very Happy.
1 for HyperVM + Xen. (2 IP's, 1 for node one for VM testing)
Wow. You can use one server with two kernels. Just reboot with other kernel and test... yes, HyperVM needs with some code adding. And so? You must Work!
Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73514 is a reply to message #71768] Fri, 26 March 2010 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crazy? More than that. You are ungrateful and clueless.

You can go on and on with your rants but it won't help your case.

I already pointed how you can submit fixes and whatnot but you insist on this nonsense.

You are insulting the very people that made the code available. You think it was easy? How about decrypting the code? Oh... you didn't know lxcenter started with nothing but encrypted code?

Right, you registered 2 days ago. Who are you to criticise anyone?

And do you really think any lunatic (as you self describe) no one ever heard of should be given permission for svn commits?

If that's your idea of development, stay out of this project.

And stop talking. Seriously.
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Rai tlin is currently offline Rai tlin  Russian Federation
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I already pointed how you can submit fixes and whatnot but you insist on this nonsense.

If you think, that project is normally created site... I'm sorry. This site is very bad navigation, very bad discussions, etc.

I've been fixed many bugs. Very many (about 70 bugs, and about 180 commits to my own repos, about 3000 rows of code). If you started with nothing... Decoding? half of Year? Yes, this is cool. If lxcenter do not responce (read careful!) in january, in march... Yes, this is.

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If that's your idea of development, stay out of this project.

My ideas - is my work.

Who are you?
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You think it was easy?

Yes. It's more easy. Opensource release was...?

Yes, I'll stop talking. Sorry. Just I talked about mistakes. And I going to home, I will be work with my own hosting services. Thanks for reply. This is my last post on this forum.
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[quote title=Rai tlin wrote on Fri, 26 March 2010 01:44]Quote:
Yes, I'll stop talking. Sorry. Just I talked about mistakes. And I going to home, I will be work with my own hosting services. Thanks for reply. This is my last post on this forum.


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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73523 is a reply to message #73515] Fri, 26 March 2010 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LxCenter_Danny is currently offline LxCenter_Danny  Netherlands
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Rai tlin wrote on Fri, 26 March 2010 05:44
I've been fixed many bugs. Very many (about 70 bugs, and about 180 commits to my own repos, about 3000 rows of code).


Submit your fixes at http://project.lxcenter.org/
It will be reviewed and tested and also in a next release.

If you don't want to do that, consider your last post as a last post.





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Re: WANTED: Skilled coders for HyperVM/Kloxo development [message #73534 is a reply to message #71768] Fri, 26 March 2010 11:08 Go to previous message
coolraul is currently offline coolraul  Canada
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Thank you for your feedback and as I said before, good luck with your new panel. Just don't use any of the code from here and I wish you well with your project.

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