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Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91152] Thu, 17 November 2011 14:01 Go to next message
com2 is currently offline com2  Spain
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For the sake of my small company, stable hosting and ease of use is essential. I have coped long enough with the different Kloxo bugs and the resulting client complains. Should I move to another hosting control panel? Is there an alternative at all, that offers the same Master - Slave cluster like functionality?

I was looking at InterWorx this afternoon. Their most affordable license is $294 first year then $100 following years if you want their support. Tempting since I do have a little more money in the account lately. Would this be the time to move?

Then I was thinking of what would happen if we all would start contributing that to the "LX center fund"? Would it make any difference? Would it lead to a more stable code? Or does this have more to do with management? Can a growing fund motivate better management?

I have no idea what is the user base of Kloxo (or HyperVM). I would like to know how much would come together when all users would contribute $10 / month, would that pay a full time programmer? Or two?
Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91153 is a reply to message #91152] Thu, 17 November 2011 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The difficulty I faced was:

1. only spare 2 vpses that I can use to develop kloxo / HyperVM (would be great 4-5 vpses)
2. don't have sparring-partner(s), so tend to work alone (that's why I released 6.1.7 pre-release to get feedback from users)


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Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91170 is a reply to message #91153] Fri, 18 November 2011 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you please provide us information on what kind of VPS you need:
1. amount of RAM
2. CPU power (single or dual core and clock rate)
3. HDD size etc
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Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91175 is a reply to message #91152] Fri, 18 November 2011 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
com2 is currently offline com2  Spain
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This response means, there is no need for money. We rather need hardware.

Some companies that have data centers can afford to give a server, but I am talking here about the smaller companies that may be rent a server or two, that they can just afford themselves. They could not contribute hardware.

In other words if the money would be given, would it only go to hardware? Or could it go to programming hours too?
Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91179 is a reply to message #91175] Fri, 18 November 2011 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, we can give you 4 VPS servers but we need you to give us specs so we cloud allocate enough resources for them. So If you need VPSs , you got them. Very Happy
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Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91200 is a reply to message #91179] Fri, 18 November 2011 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mustafaramadhan is currently offline mustafaramadhan  Indonesia
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Agree with com2. We need contribution from all of us. We can share our servers capacity, make donation and other possibilities.

The question is how to contributes?. Open account for donation?.


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Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91203 is a reply to message #91200] Fri, 18 November 2011 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shazar is currently offline shazar  United States
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Personally, I don't see this as a lacking in donations or even hardware. There is just not a proper testing solution in place.

First would like to say: I would never use autoupdate on anything. I always test before updating if there is a possibility that a break would hurt me.

A true testing plan must be implemented.
A full list of checks must be listed.
If the checklist is complete enough, anyone should be able to use it.
Someone must certify the update. Possibly multiple people should certify it.
The best people to certify would be people that don't have their hands in the pot.
Finally a decision must be made on what really can and should be updated in 6.1.X. Personally I don't think "enhancements" should be added to 6.1.X. I see more harm than good in it. Also I don't think 6.2.X should be a direct upgrade path. This would allow more enhancements to be done without the worry of breaking 6.1.X.


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Re: Stability, alternative control panel or donations? [message #91297 is a reply to message #91200] Sun, 20 November 2011 14:59 Go to previous message
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mustafaramadhan wrote on Fri, 18 November 2011 20:13

The question is how to contributes?. Open account for donation?.


There is this Paypal account. But I don't think that is enough. There should be some small foundation with agreement about policies, direction and purpose, decided democratically that donators will feel they have a vote in decisions. Otherwise it will be unlikely to receive large sums. Who would give over 200$ for something that does not really exist? A paypal account is legally nothing else than a private person. Lxcenter does not really exist as far as I know.
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