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LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #23895] Fri, 29 February 2008 08:07 Go to next message
gcakici is currently offline gcakici  Turkey
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For the end of the April.

[Updated on: Fri, 29 February 2008 08:08]

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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #30130 is a reply to message #23895] Sun, 27 April 2008 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rfhmendes  Portugal
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Waiting...! Laughing
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #31148 is a reply to message #30130] Thu, 29 May 2008 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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any update on this? Very Happy
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #31149 is a reply to message #31148] Thu, 29 May 2008 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We are still working on this. It will take another couple of months at least. The problem is that the customer interest turned out to be slightly less than what we had anticipated. But Lxadmin is written as 100% cross platform, and full windows support is the most important thing that we are currently working on.

thanks.


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 09:11:46PM -0000, Reynante wrote:
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> any update on this? :d
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #31150 is a reply to message #23895] Thu, 29 May 2008 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have your time... we prefer a stable product than a buggy one! Smile
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32308 is a reply to message #23895] Sat, 28 June 2008 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gcakici is currently offline gcakici  Turkey
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Forever young...

We compared interworx to lxadmin and choose lx since it's going to support Windows platform sooner. It had been a year or so and we see that we make a wrong decision. Of course it can be reversible and soon we'll reverse.

Gokalp

Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32310 is a reply to message #32308] Sat, 28 June 2008 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

Cpanel has been trying to get windows out for more than 5 years or so, and still not succeeded. We definitely have plans to release it before this year end. Our main problem is providing support for windows, which being graphical is slightly more difficult.

I would be really surprised if a linux company can trivially come up with a windows version. Lxadmin is extremely well-written , with 5 layers of abstraction, which is the only reason why we were able to port it.

thanks.




On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 09:26:30PM -0000, Gokalp Cakici wrote:
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> Forever young...
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> We compared interworx to lxadmin and choose lx since it's going to support Windows platform sooner. It had been a year or so and we see that we make a wrong decision. Of course it can be reversible and soon we'll reverse.
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> Gokalp
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32314 is a reply to message #23895] Sat, 28 June 2008 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gcakici is currently offline gcakici  Turkey
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We have a saying in our language. Some can eat big pieces but some shouldn't talk big. You might have ability to do a windows version but you should talk about it if you come up with a finished product. We're listening about this story more than a year since we're using your product just a year. When we first looked at your product there was even a windows beta download on your download site.

For the cpanel talk, we don't need to talk about that since we already chosen the panel which is lxadmin. Just say that you're not going to support windows and everything would be fine for a serious user or company because we take your words seriously. If you mean it, just do the work and we'll be peacefull.

For the end of the year timing, i wish luck for the people who takes that word seriously.

Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32315 is a reply to message #32314] Sat, 28 June 2008 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> For the cpanel talk, we don't need to talk about that since we already chosen the panel which is lxadmin. Just say that you're not going to support windows and everything would be fine for a serious user or company because we take your words seriously. If you mean it, just do the work and we'll be peacefull.



I merely mentioned it to show the difficulty of predicting a release. When the platform is different, we run into so many unpredictable issues. We are always close to release, but there is always one more issue to fix. The volatility of software release prediction is very common in the industry.

As for us, we have normally delivered on our promise, except for the windows port, which has been tougher than we thought.

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The only prediction we made was to release it in May, but a deadline which we weren't able to cater to. Earlier, we never made any predictions about windows release AT ALL. We just had the beta version for download.

thanks.


Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32317 is a reply to message #32315] Sat, 28 June 2008 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of the reasons for the delay, was that we actually asked many of our customers about windows, but very very few evinced interest. I am sure Windows is indeed a credible market, but very few of our current customers seems to be interested in it.

That's actually the real reason why we decided to slow down, especially since, the requests for features on linux was much stronger, and had more proponents. In fact, at present, we are keeping windows on hold, and will take it up in another 2 months, after we add the features on linux.

But yes, lxadmin/hyperVM windows will be definitely there, and it will use 99% of the same code, but it will take some more time.

thanks.


On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 04:01:14AM +0530, Lxhelp wrote:
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> > For the cpanel talk, we don't need to talk about that since we already chosen the panel which is lxadmin. Just say that you're not going to support windows and everything would be fine for a serious user or company because we take your words seriously. If you mean it, just do the work and we'll be peacefull.
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32322 is a reply to message #23895] Sat, 28 June 2008 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gcakici is currently offline gcakici  Turkey
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You guys are being great as a forum moderator. I mean it.

When we've chosen your product we choose a suite not a control panel. It supports AWBS (which was terrible indeed when we try to integrate the products), it supports vps's (xen and hypervm) and it promises to support both worlds linux and windows.

We're not short on money or technical knowledge as a company. We could have buy another suite. And you may remember we contributed the clamav support for the mail system and also powerdns driver. Today we've developed an open source Zimbra control panel for the first time in the market and so.

We know how small the difference between the linux and windows for the code you've written and also know how fragile that small difference. For example the htaccess file and log version of the IIS and so.

If we can do it we should have done it. We have a homebrew panel for 8 years doing everything except the windows. Also we overcome this using samba, nfs etc which we already do with your panel today. Yes it is for real. Our lxadmins works on linux and windows together today and doing their job somehow with our help.

But this is temporary and if an serious ISS tries to give a serious service it should support windows hosting natively. Customers saying that windows is not really needed can go any panel they like even for free ie. www.ravencore.com. Or a prooven and cheap solution like direcadmin.

Anyways it's a questionable position to not to fulfill the promised windows release as you mention many stuff above in that thread. Only real thing is we don't have a windows version today even you told so and also you're saying to compete with parallels aka plesk in many of the forum's threads.

So please self criticize the situation and then go after what the users say about an unneeded windows support.
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32324 is a reply to message #32322] Sat, 28 June 2008 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:15:38PM -0000, Gokalp Cakici wrote:
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> Anyways it's a questionable position to not to fulfill the promised windows release as you mention many stuff above in that thread. Only real thing is we don't have a windows version today even you told so and also you're saying to compete with parallels aka plesk in many of the forum's threads.
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> So please self criticize the situation and then go after what the users say about an unneeded windows support.



Yes, we clearly understand it. But as I said, the only deadline that we gave was May End. Before that we had Windows In Beta, but didn't really talk about it.

As for provenness, Lxadmin is widely used, and works properly.

thanks.


Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32332 is a reply to message #23895] Sat, 28 June 2008 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rfhmendes  Portugal
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In my opinion Lxlabs is right in everything and only wrong in one thing... but that is not so much important... since the rest are correct choices... and the correct choices justifies his only "mistake" completely.

Lxlabs mistake was telling a release date. Only that. If they didn't tell anything, you won't "blablabla" and complain them for your own mistake.

"gcakici" are you some kind of CEO? If I'm wrong I apologize. Because you talk like one. At the same time you talk like if you understand anything about programming. Smile

If you were a real CEO (or boss of some specific department whatever) or developer for real... you should know about Lxlabs priorities.

They must correct issues/bugs currently on HyperVM/Lxadmin (like the good developers they are and listen to their clients). Most of the clients prefer linux. Others (like you), likes to have both platforms. And other ones prefer only windows.

You decided to use Lxlabs products because they said they had a release date for windows. If you really needed windows and if you have the money like you say and the knowledge for that... why you come here to the forum "blablabla" saying all that you said and complain Lxlabs for your own mistake? Just go to some big company that have both platforms (windows and linux) at the same time. Don't waste time here man. Remember, time is money (for you off course... since you talking like you were losing money each day)?!

A developer like you or CEO (or boss/responsible of whatever) must have much more to do than came here and complain a company that works hard for their current clients to fix issues and bugs. The majority works with linux not windows. Until windows software from lxlabs comes out, he needs to give priority for linux because thats what it is currently fully working on production systems and we (clients like you) can't wait for bugs to be fixed. Windows that is not running on productions systems can wait even 5 years if needed.

Also, my little experience (with the only 20 years old I have) teaches me that every "release date" is not to be trusted when we talk about software, games and everything involving programming.

But that is a opinion of a 20 years old guy... maybe if it was an opinion from someone like the big "Bill Gates" you would consider this words.

Try to understand lxlabs position here!


Regards,
R. Mendes

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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #32526 is a reply to message #32332] Tue, 01 July 2008 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spereira is currently offline spereira  Portugal
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LxAdmin for Windows, its only for Windows 2008 right?

Now i use have a VPS with 2003 server and Plesk...
When you release this version i will use it Smile


Thanks,
Samuel


Thanks,
Samuel
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #33941 is a reply to message #23895] Sun, 27 July 2008 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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is there any update for this?
at this time both of pleask and helm cant be used on xen for some economical reasons.
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #41413 is a reply to message #23895] Mon, 13 October 2008 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is LxAdmin Windows ready ?
quan lot rbi do boi dep xe day doi ao so mi nu thoi trang cong so chup anh cho be

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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #41525 is a reply to message #41413] Tue, 14 October 2008 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lxhelp
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Early 2009 release. Max by feb.


On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:38:39PM -0000, Marek wrote:
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #42499 is a reply to message #41525] Wed, 22 October 2008 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lxhelp wrote on Tue, 14 October 2008 07:10

Early 2009 release. Max by feb.







LxHelp,

You should stop mentioning release dates to make people happy. Just concentrate on the product, making sure it works well, and we will all be happy. I chose LxAdmin due to the dual-support as well, but if waiting is what it takes, then it is fine by me and probably a lot of other people as well Smile

Others are still struggling to come out with their windows versions after 3-5 years in development
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #42622 is a reply to message #41525] Wed, 22 October 2008 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lxhelp wrote on Tue, 14 October 2008 13:10

Early 2009 release. Max by feb.


On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:38:39PM -0000, Marek wrote:
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Which SQL Server 2008 version is needed to run it ?

How many customers licence do I need if I got one Windows box ?
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #42629 is a reply to message #42622] Wed, 22 October 2008 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Internally we are using sqlite. So it will be independent of the db.

You can install whatever DB you want, you will have to license it from MS.


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:50:43PM -0000, Marek wrote:
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> Lxhelp wrote on Tue, 14 October 2008 13:10
> > Early 2009 release. Max by feb.
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #42634 is a reply to message #23895] Wed, 22 October 2008 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Which Windows 2008 Server versions will be supported ?
ao nguc paltal ao lot nam dep chau tam cho be thoi trang cong so vay lien cong so cho thue trang phuc chup anh
SBS probably won't run, because it needs domain controller and Active Directory to work.

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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #43193 is a reply to message #42634] Mon, 27 October 2008 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All windows 2008 will be supported. Lxadmin will be pretty much independent of the system, just like on linux.

You will need IIS installed already that's all.


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> SBS probably won't run, because it needs domain controller and Active Directory to work.
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #43194 is a reply to message #23895] Mon, 27 October 2008 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't wait Wink
quan lot khe do boi nam ca tinh xe day loai khac chan vay cong so nu thoi trang cong so nu cho thue trang phuc bieu dien

[Updated on: Fri, 03 May 2013 14:26]

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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #44033 is a reply to message #23895] Fri, 31 October 2008 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about MS Access databases ? Will it support them ?
bo do lot nu cao cap quan lot nam cao cap do nhiet do tam cho be vest cong so nu ao so mi nu trang phuc cuoi dep

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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #44034 is a reply to message #44033] Fri, 31 October 2008 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MSSQL only.


On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:43:21PM -0000, Marek wrote:
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #48556 is a reply to message #44034] Tue, 02 December 2008 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lxhelp wrote on Fri, 31 October 2008 21:47

MSSQL only.


On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:43:21PM -0000, Marek wrote:
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Does that mean no MySQL support?
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #49669 is a reply to message #23895] Mon, 08 December 2008 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think MSSQL, MySQL and Access support would be a proper way to go...

Even if MySQL would only be supported via a Hypervm VPS running linux and MysQL, that would be just fine...
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #52719 is a reply to message #41525] Mon, 05 January 2009 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #53688 is a reply to message #49669] Thu, 15 January 2009 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ales wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 00:39

I think MSSQL, MySQL and Access support would be a proper way to go...



Without MySQL and MS Access support, you'll lose 75% - probably more - of your potential customer base before you've even started.
Re: LXadmin Windows - Now we're countdowning ... [message #55062 is a reply to message #53688] Tue, 03 February 2009 12:49 Go to previous message
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when can we try the beta?
Wink

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